We, here at jhootha sauda : sacha sauda are keeping an eye on every news and incident to provide you with the best possible picture of the Punjab’s current situation. We thereby provide every perspective and available factual information anywhere within the media. Personal blogs will also be included, so that you are getting everything from one place you need not to search for it from any other online source. The article posted below provides very useful links which we hope will help you to gain a wider picture of the relevent incidents:
Contributed by members of Sikhism Community, Orkut.
PURPOSE
This webpage is meant as an eye opener to the actual reasons, cause and happenings behind the Dera Sacha Sauda issue. Almost all of us depend upon news channels to provide us with the latest updates on issues, but what is unfortunate is that most often one can see either incorrect or incomplete information, or a politically influenced or a biased view in these places. This web page is a small effort to bring to light the truth behind all of this.
THE TRUTHMany people may have no idea about what the Dera Sacha Sauda is or what this entire issue is all about. Many national and regional channels in
India have come up with their own interpretations of this Dera. Let us try clear the misconceptions first. The Dera Sacha Sauda is in no way of or related to Sikhism. Sikhism does not support the Dera culture.(A Dera like this one here is like a cult following of people where typically a man declares himself as a holy person trying to gather followers.) So is the Dera Sacha Suada. In effect the Dera is actually a Jhootha Sauda.
1. This is not an issue of Akalis going for a revenge. Anyone in power would not ask for the trouble. This is a case of Sikh sentiments being hurt.
CNN IBN and other channels have repeatedly being saying that its a fight over faith between Dera and Akali Sikhs. This is totally false! It’s a fight between “All Sikhs” and the Dera.
2. The instigation has deliberately been done by the Dera Baba who has tried to imitate the tenth Master of the Sikhs.
3. Its not just dress code, he has tried to play and mimic with the teachings of the Guru Sahib- instituting his own style amrit like
- he has 7 persons for his sharabat first and Guru Gobind Singh ji has panj pyare (5 beloved ones)
- he asked his followers to use “Insaan” with their names and everyone knows it was Guru Gobind Singh ji who asked Sikhs to use Singh for males and Kaur for females with their names.
and unfortunately just the way it happened in 1978 that led to operation bluestar and then 84 riots.
4. Anyone Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian who has slightest knowledge of Sikhism can easily make out the intentions behind the ads.
5. The Dera followers were aware of the instigation and were prepared for the Sikh reactions. within hours of Sikh Protest 12000 Dera followers came armed and created havoc in Bhatinda. Most of them were armed with same size of lathis as reported by News Channel.
6. The congress is behind these instigations and trouble is factually proven by photographs and videos, as almost 6 congress MLAs were part of the mob which created havoc in Bhatinda.
7. Tolerance does not mean that you demean the prophets of any religion and then ask the people not to react. And mind it the reactions by Sikhs have been democratic and mostly peaceful.
8. There were 1.5 lakh Sikhs yesterday at Sabo ki Talvandi to protest against the Deras misendeavors. Has there been any violence or damage to public property? What more can be the tolerance?
9. It was Dera followers who open fired on the crowd coming back from Talwandi Sabo. Their Dera is on the main road and they open fire, killing 1 Sikh (Kamaljit Singh) and injuring several others. How come Dera followers got armed with guns and ammunition?
10. Dera followers distributing lathis (sticks) and collecting stones was shown in one of the news channel on Thursday evening.
11. There are hundreds of Deras running in
Punjab and never ever the Sikhs harassed or protested against them. Yes unless these Deras have tried to deliberately play with Sikh sentiments. 12. We would request all to support Sikh sentiments and expose this Dera.
13. We would also request Sikh brothers to not to play in the hands of politicians. Let us maintain our composure and peacefully protest against the Dera Head’s misadventure.
LINKS
Below are a collection of links(videos/articles/news feeds/blogs) which will help us understand what the truth is behind this Dera and its self proclaimed head, Gurmeet Ram Rahim, what is it that is wrong done by him hurting the Sikh sentiments.
I
This blog has quite a comprehensive coverage of the incidents right from the beginning which have led to the entire event. One may read this, not to forget watch some videos of the happenings in Punjab/Haryana(Sirsa).
http://jaspreetsingh.blogspot.com/
II
This was the instigating advertisement given in the Hindustan Times by the Dera Sacha Sauda. Notice the person adopting the clothes/posture/style of Guru Gobind Singh Ji and making a worthless attempt to compare himself to the True Guru. And as mentioned earlier, he formulated rules for his followers similar to the tenets laid down by Guru Gobind Singh on the Baisakhi day in 1699, the day KHALSA was born.
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/artMailDisp.aspx?article=13_05_2007_001_008&typ=1&pub=722
III
The Dera Sacha Sauda for long has been in more controversial news than in good news for the killings of a journalist and a former member of the Dera who tried to expose the evil going on inside the Dera.
These links talk about the killing of a journalist who was trying to expose the rape of a sadhvi or a female disciple of the Dera by the head of the Dera, Gurmeet Ram Rahim himself. A letter written by this sadhvi also talks about the sexual exploitation of many more females that keep happening inside the premises of the Dera.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1926/stories/20030103003404000.htm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070410/haryana.htm#24
http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed02.html
IV
There are presently atleast two different cases being investigated by the CBI for the rape and killings which happened inside the Dera. The CBI has also put forward a cash award asking people for evidence to prove the same.
http://cbi.nic.in/PressReleases/PRelease2005/sadhvi.htm
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050906/haryana.htm#1
V
The luxury Dera baba; Gurmeet Ram Rahim
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/dera-sacha-saudas-colourful-baba/40803-3.html
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/meet-dera-chief-a-luxury-baba/40768-3.html
VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcITqSgnH8U
http://www.youtube.com/v/pRGt6G66p3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zraqA8dg1s4
Negative tactics by Dera to divide the Sikhs
The NDTV already played a documentary around 9.30 PM stating that Sikhs don’t allow dalits in mainstream Gurdwaras but in Dera all are treated as equal without any discrimination (so, dalits have to build seperate Gurdwaras). This is utter rubbish!!! A Gurdwara is open to entire humanity, people from all faiths/castes/creed without any discrimination whatsoever. This is just a political stunt created by the Dera to brainwash people and attract confused and under-priviledged ones.
Now Dera is throwing such baseless and foolish tantrums through its Spokesperson. This was broadcasted live by AAJ TAK.
His False Claim :
a) Sikhs burnt religious Granths, including Sri Guru Granth Sahib (most revered holy granth of Sikhs) in their Dera at Bhatinda.
This is absolutely false! How can media broadcast this fraud news? Was there any such news from legal authorities? How can media let provocative statements Telecasted live?
The Sikh Community totally condemns this claims. Sikhs respect all the religions and expect the same from all.
Sikhs never burn any religious scripture (this is a conspiracy to trap them, we should be aware of this and not fall for such foul means played by the Dera people).



54 responses so far ↓
1 rajpal // May 23, 2007 at 4:45 pm
This is good, unbaised. Keep it up. I also like your policy of Ideas over violence. We (Sikhs) need to have a plan and leaders to show how to fight this situation and government.
2 Aseem juneja // May 23, 2007 at 9:25 pm
DHAN DHAN SATGURU TERA HI AASRA!!
3 jimidar // May 23, 2007 at 9:55 pm
eh tu ni bolda kaka tu ni bolda
terey vichoh ohh tattu jeha saadh bolda…
saalaa free da khaa khaa k jhotey waangu pallleya hoya
tuhaadey to kamm layi jaanda free ch…tey aap khaayi jaanda …tusi bewakoof magar laggey firdey ho….
Taras aaonda mainu tuhaadey tey….
vichaarey akhaaa waaley anney…..
4 Harjeet Singh // May 24, 2007 at 8:40 am
Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa
Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh
Please let me share some views on the burning topic of Akali and Dera Sacha Sauda. Before writing this, I studied the whole matter thoroughly. But I am sorry to say that the disciples of Dera Sacha Sauda are not participating in violent activity still. While we all are beholding swords and other armaments. We are becoming a cause of condemnation of our Guru Ji as our Guru Ji never asked us to indulge in violence against innocents. I am call them innocents because I kept a keen eye over all of their activities and studied the whole matter thoroughly. Dera Sacha Sauda Head didn’t wear the dress like that of our Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Because Guru Gobind Ji was always armed with many weapons along with dresses. Moreover, we shouldn’t liken Jaam-e-Insaan with Amrit (Nectar) that our Guru Gobind Singh Ji offered. Doing so, we lower the value of The Amrit. We must quit such violent activity if we want to save the name and prestige of Our Sikhi. We ourselves are reducing the value of Sikhism. Because humility, as our Guru Ji taught, is the best attribute to win the victory, and ignoring Guru Ji’s order is worst kind of sin. I am sorry to say that I know how one by neglecting his guru’s advice brings devastation on oneself, and I dare to say it may cause us great damage as we are misled from the path shown by our Guru Ji. And our representatives Avtar Singh Ji Makkar, Joginder Singh Vedanti, Paramjeet Ji Sarna, Jathedar Balwant Singh Nandgarh Damdama Sahib, Daljeet Singh Bittu, Bibi Jageer Kaur, Paramjeet Kalsi Ferozpur delivered inflammatory speeches that the whole country is facing problems due to their statements. The people will condemn our Sikhi and not these representative of our religion. Being a well-wisher, whether Dera Sacha Sauda is at fault or not, but we should not give up the path of our Sikhi. In the end, I feel sorry if I wrote anything wrong here.
Best Regards
Harjeet Singh, London
5 Manjeet Khalsa // May 24, 2007 at 8:45 am
How does one wash his hands of virtues? Merely condemnation. Condemnation leaves man with no virtue of his own. Man absorbed in denouncing other loses every virtue he has. Our religious scriptures, be it Bible, Quran, Veda, Guru Granth Sahib etc., advocate the said fact. If a man denounces other man, “he develops in himself the evils of the person whom he denounces”. And when anybody is given to the condemnation of any Perfect Saint, “he does harm not of himself but many of his bygone generations”. He faces the hell on earth, and pure hell after death; he can find harmony neither in his family nor within himself. Such a creature is bound to suffer here and there. On the other hand, those who pass their lives without even a spot of condemnation, they cherish His infinite grace. History states whoever condemned other, they lived a hellish life. When Vashishat Ji was questioned, “What’s the worst sort of habit in man” He answered, “Condemnation.” Sikhism Says, “Ninda Bhali kisi ki nahin manmukh mugadh karan, munh kale tin nindka, nariki ghor bharan.” If mankind gives up backbiting and condemnation, God’s grace will shower infinitely on the mankind, and every man will be rewarded with unsaid of virtues.
6 Sardara Singh // May 24, 2007 at 9:32 am
Bade dukhi Hirde naal suchit kita janda hai ke aj ludhiane wich apne Ik akali joginder singh di maut tadaf-tadaf ke ho gayi hai. Unhane marde time dasseya ki bhai singho Dere Sache Saude wale Sant koi aam sant nahi balki ik puran taakat hai. Unhane eh wi dasya ki Bhai unha noo manda bura na boleyo sikho nahi taan kide pai-pai ke, Ate kutte di maut maronge, dona jahana wich dhoi nahi milni. Unha ne dasaya ki main Maafi mangda haan us Sant ton, kiounke main ohna de khilaf bahut manda boleya si taan ose din ton ghar wich ladai rahan lag pai ate Sukh_shanti Chali gayi. Phir 2 din pahlan Sache saude wale Baba Ji ne supne wich dasaya ke Bhai usin Sanu mada bolan wale da wee bura nahi chaunde lekin Malik Taan dekhhda hai. Maada bolonge taan sukh shanti kiwein aajawegi. Bhai 2 din hor katt le pher bhai tera chalana ho jaana hai.
So Bhai Us akali di halat dekhan ton baad mere ander wee khayal aaya hai ki bhai ‘Ninda bhali kise ki naahi, Mann mukh-mugad karan, Muh kaale tin neendkaan, Narki ghor pawan’. Bhai Sache Saude wala baba chahe kise trahan da wee hai main gujarish karda haan saare singha noo ke bhai aapan keon apni jubaan nu ganda kariye jo karega so bharega. So es gall nu amal wich leon di kirpalta karni hai.
Wahe Guru Ji ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji ki fateh
7 Sant Gurmit Singh Ram Raheem Singh Ji Maharaj // May 24, 2007 at 10:06 am
I, Sant Ram Raheem Singh do hereby declare that i have done so many activities that are objectionable to Sikh community. And feel no shame that I am main culprit in raping and killing of everybody whosoever was against my activities. But after this last drama by me to imitate Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, I am shivering with fear, i can not go out, can not do my morning’s necessary stuff, because i am suffering from KABAJ these days,I am back firing like hell. can’t sleep at all. it seems like some Singhs are frying me in a deep saucepan. I am Sorry to all of you, to whole Sikh community, And promise that it will not happen again in my life, if it is not cut short. I appeal to all my followers to beat me with their shoes, make me sit on donkey and parade me in whole Punjab.
To whole Sikh community and all my followers,
Call me Cult
Cult Gurmit Ram Raheem
8 blinda // May 24, 2007 at 8:52 pm
baba nu sodna payga,the planing is allready in process
9 Admin // May 25, 2007 at 6:36 am
We at Jhootha Sauda are committed to keep dialogue open, however we would support any dialogue written with some logic and prrof, rather than shooting the peekaboos from one’s @$$, like Sardara Singh.
Pyaare veer Harjit Singh Jee, I do agree that violence is no path to achieve anything. However keep in mind that the backlash was the result of violence initiated by ‘Premis’ in Bathinda. However we also believe that two wrongs do not make a right.
Manjit Ji, You wrote yourrself “. And when anybody is given to the condemnation of any Perfect Saint……”. Leave perfect, who is saint? I believe although Ram Rahim Insaan has done efforts to spread harmony, but now the real picture showing up shows personal motives for all the actions. And a person with high vanity is not even Gursikh, forget about being a saint (By gursikh, I don’t means follower of just Sikhism or Guru Granth Sahib, I mean anyone who walks the perfect righteous and virtuous path to God.)
10 Dass Guran Da( Auckland) // May 25, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji ki Fateh.
I am writing this message on behalf of all sikh sangat, who are true sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh Ji.Its time to get together to struggle with activities of SACHA SAUDA dera.
” Na kahoon aab ki , na kahoon Tab ki,
Agar na hote GURU GOBIND SINGH,
Sunnat hoti sabh ki”
Might be Sacha sauda dera owner,would either born from some muslim lady’s womb or from………………………………………..?
11 manjit // Jul 25, 2007 at 5:24 am
PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS ABOUT DERA SADH
comments about dera sacha sauda chief by manjit
12 manjit // Jul 25, 2007 at 5:29 am
I HAVE SENTS MANY COMMENTS AGAINST ACTIVITIES OF DERA SADH BUT MANY OF THEM ARE MISSING…….A MATTER OF GREAT SORROW
PLEASE MUST READ :
comments about dera sacha sauda chief by manjit
THANX
WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA
WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
13 vijender soni // Jul 28, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Baba Guru Ram Rahim Singh Is not a Baba he is a businessman earning money from his dera..
leaving like a king…he is a cruel man….a rapist
a murderer…..its the time to undress him in front of his blind follower
14 manjit // Aug 4, 2007 at 7:36 am
WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA
WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
SARI SANGAT DE CHARNA VICH BENTI HAI KE TUSI MERE VICHAR JAROOR PARHKE APNE VICAR SAJHE KARO
comments about dera sacha sauda chief by manjit NU CLICK KARKE MERE SAARE VICHARAN BAARE APNI RAI JAROOR BHEJO JI
GURU FATEH PARVAAN KARNA
15 inder singh // Aug 26, 2007 at 3:49 am
its the end of idiotness
so time to think above than these baba issues
we all have religion and have already gods to whom we can worship
so why this baba
is he has done something different to mankind
he is even far below than the simple man on the earth
so why people worship
have they lost there senses
when we believe in one god why we believe on a person who is even not a simple human being
he is animal
things are gone so far away from us why still we trust these sants who even dont have his own food to eat they rely on others to work for them
these sants are totally shit piece of work
people who believe have to open the eyes please concentrate on simple living and high thinking dont make ur life around bullshit babas
who have no idea what they doing and why
we all remember to check the character of man give him a power
so this baba character is infront of every body
16 Anu Insan // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Dera Sacha Sauda Hamesha Sach Ke Raah Par Chalta Hai aur Hamesha hi Chalta Rahega, Chahe Koi Jitna Bhi Jor Lagaaye.Yeh Na Hi Ruka Tha, Na Hi Ruka Hai, Na Hi Rukega.
17 Anupma // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:41 pm
jo Log Dera Sacha sauda Ko Bura Kahte Hain,asal Mein Vo Khud yeh Kah rahen hain Ki Hum Itne Bure Hain.
18 Anupma Insan // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Jo Kuch Bhi bahar Bola ja Raha Hai ,Vo 100,200 Or 500% Jhuth Hai.
19 Anupam // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:46 pm
jab CBI officers ko lakh baar dera sacha sauda aakar kuch nahin mila to unhone khatta singh jaise gire hue logon ko kharidna shuru kar diya,jo ki paise ke liye kuch bhi bol sakte hain.Khatta Singh ko bhali bhanti pata hai ki dera sacha sauda ek paak pavitra sanstha hai,par vo paison ke lalach mein jhuth pe jhuth bola ja raha hai.
20 Anuradha // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Sach na hi kabhi ruka hai or na hi kabhi rukega.
Jitna kuch log dera sacha sauda ke baare mein galat bolenge utna hi dere ke shardhaluon ka vishwas or bhi majboot hota jaayega.Yeh andh vishwas nahin balki Dhrid vishwas hai.
21 chandan // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Dera sacha sauda ek paak pavitra sanstha hai.Saint Gurmeet Ram rahim Singh Ji Hamesha Sach par chalne ki prerna dete hain.
22 jyoti // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Jo log bahar bolte rahte hain ,Kya unme dere mein aane ki himmat nahin hai? Ek bar yahan par aaye to sahi,to hi sachaai ka pata chalega
23 Ramesh // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Sach na hi kabhi ruka hai or na hi kabhi rukega.
Jitna kuch log dera sacha sauda ke baare mein galat bolenge utna hi dere ke shardhaluon ka vishwas or bhi majboot hota jaayega.Yeh andh vishwas nahin balki Dhrid vishwas hai.
24 Bimla // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:55 pm
Kya dera sacha sauda ko galat bolne wale yeh bhul gayen hain ki Saint Gurmeet ram Rahim Singh Ji Insan ne Kabhi Kisi Ka bura Nahin Kiya Balki acha hi kiya hai jo ki kisi se sahan nahi hua .
25 madhu // Sep 17, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Hum apne aap ko bahut hi khush naseeb mante hain ki hum aaj is pak pavitra sanstha se jude huen hain.Jitna koi is sanstha ko galat bolega hamara vishwas or bhi dridh hota jayega, yeh andh vishwas nahin balki dridh vishwas hai.
26 TRUE INFO // Sep 30, 2007 at 7:39 pm
IT IS 100% true information. It is totally upto you if you want to believe it. Sant stayed in 1987 with Gurjant singh budhsinghwala in Lahor. Sant gurmeet was responsible for cleaning dishes etc. Sant’s was clean shaven at that time and was very DARPOK person. All other persons died except sant and other individual in the group who cannot released his name as he is afraid to come out in public. Sant was used to be called as RANJEET SINGH in the LAHORE…TRY TO DIG YOURSELF WHERE WAS SANT IN 1987.
27 Sociologist // Oct 2, 2007 at 2:55 am
Can anyone explain me How come the dera head rules the hearts of millions of common masses? Please dont tell me that he was a good politician, an excellent entrepreneur, perfect leader and a skilled orator. No. I have listened to him. There is something definitely ”MORE THAN THIS”. I have never seen someone like him in present age. Just for an instance, he introduced in dera the concept of ”CONSTRUCTIVE DEMOCRACY”, a term used to describe the system where the poor/needy are not helped directly by rich but one needy helps other by working on a common platform. The way, any innovative idea goes down from dera management to the roots of villages, is something one could expect only from an ideal Governance. No need to mention his contribution in rooting out the social evils. In short despite of what media published the DERA HEAD improved SOCIAL HEALTH of the region. Whether is this due to a spiritualism or not? But this is a fact that no leader, entrepreneur, social-worker seems in the present time as competitive as Dera Head!
28 Sociologist // Oct 2, 2007 at 10:23 am
WHY SOME ELEMENTS CLAIMING THEM SIKHS ARE FEELING INSECURED FROM DERA HEAD?
This is the question coming again and again into my thoughts. After this dera-sikh dispute, I listened very attentively and with an open mind to the dera satsangs and majlis. Let me tell the truth. Most if not everyone, atleast during the satangs/majlis inside the dera, seem to be at their most well-being state praying/dancing in love far away from hatred against any one. I could never hear, to my understanding of sikh history-traditions-teachings, anything against Sikhism or any other religion. The significance of this truth becomes many folds given that some forces could defame dera in the media very successfuly (almost perfectly). After every 7 days they are repeating Jame Insan ceremony (baptism) for atleast 50,000 followers, every last sunday of month some tens thousands get NAAM (method of meditation). The reason is simple. The dera teachings (as per the teachings of religions including sikhism) make a sense in the society. However, dera has nothing to do with the culture/tradition stuff. They emphasis on the teachings.
I feel that this sense of insecurity would not help the community so far as human values are concerned. For example, dera head, when appeared in a dress, looked to be like Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. However, Punjab Police, could not find any similiarity of this dress to the original Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s dress when examined independenty from Dera head.
According to me, Sikhs should not worried/feared from Dera. They are really doing nothing against anyone’s religious sentiments. Many times Dera head was heard preaching Please Follow Your Relgion!
29 Dera took 47 teachings from sikhism // Oct 3, 2007 at 2:31 am
Ok, Dera took 47 teachings from the religions.
WHY SOME SIKHS ARE BURNING IN THE FIRE OF HATRED?
TELL ME SINGLE ORGANISATION THAT IMPLEMENTED THESE TEACHINGS IN SOCIETY?
WHO HAS GUTS TO IMPLEMENT THESE TEACHINGS IN THE COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE ARE SEEN ONLY WITH THE BRAND OF RELIGION FAR AWAY FROM THE RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS: PUNJAB IS THE TYPICAL EXAMPLE FLOODED WITH SOCIAL EVILS:
A TRUE SIKH MUST APPRECIATE DERA’s INITIATIVE IN MAKING THE COMMON MASS TO MOVE ON THE PATH SHOWN BY OUR GURUS
BUT SOME SIKHS JUST KEEP BURNING:::::::::::::
30 ANOTHER BANDA // Oct 4, 2007 at 6:37 am
AJ MAHARAJ JI NU ADALAT VICH PESH HONA HI PAYA……..
APNI JAMANAT LAYEE APEAL KARNI HI PAYEE………..
LEXSUS CAR WALA SADH SIRF PAKHANDI HAI………
PREMIO !~TUHADE KISE PIO DAADEY NE LEXSUS CAR DI SHAKAL DEKHI HAI…..?
KYON TUSIN HARAAMI GURMEET DI VAKALAT KARDE HO…?
JO KHUD ADALAT DE CHAKAR MAAR REHA HAI
31 Sociologist // Oct 7, 2007 at 1:12 am
Dear Another Bandha,
None of my family member has seen lexsus car! In my earlier comments (27-29) I stated very explicitly the reason we do advocate Dera Head. You might be knowing that on the way from Sirsa to Ambala, the followers were standing on the sides of road. When they came to know that root has been changed by admin. they started driving toward Ambala. A Satsang was delivered by Dera Head on that very day in Ambala.
Come on, if you are not a kid (I suppose), then write you blog to explain such a sense of love/dedication of huge followers for their master. For sake of God whom you believe in, be honest in your writings. Dont write that they were paid. Also, dont abuse me but give me a philosophical or poetic justification.
32 Sociologist // Oct 7, 2007 at 8:41 am
Today on Oct. 7, 2007, a blood donation camp was arranged in dera sacha sauda. They donated more than 5000 units. A unique scene, nowhere in my life could I ever see in asia, europe, and north america was:-
Many 100’s of old-aged followers were putting their best to convice the medical professionals to accept them as donator. This is very typical during any blood donation camp in dera. However, many thousands must return home without donating because of the limitations on the medical arrangements.
Many people stood in between the Ruhani Jamen ceremony and complained dera head that his blood was not taken. The Dera Head praised their human values and told them that they are too old to donate. A surprising fact I came to know just today that during last years in Kashmir snow fall, when blood was needed badly, the dera arranged a blood camp and all (without an exception) who received dera-followers donated blood could be saved.
I SALUTE THESE DERA FOLLOWERS WITH SUCH A SENSE OF HUMANITY GIVEN THAT I LIVED MANY YEARS IN EUROPE/AMERICA WHERE I WAS ALWAYS SELFISH.
33 Why Punjab is Insulting Sikhism? // Oct 7, 2007 at 8:54 am
Punjab, the land of Saints, is today flooded with social evils. Who is a Sikh, someone born into a sikh family or sikhs are not born but made by Guru? If sikhs are sikhs by virtue of their birth into a sikh family, then Punjab (the home of sikhs) is insulting the sikhism by
1) believing in cast system, once ambedkar told that castism is Punjab is worse than UP/Bihar,
2) killing the female-foetus,
3) liqour consumptions,
4) all social evils.
What today Punjabis have to boast? The earlier generations gave a good reputation to Punjab. But now, these RELIGIOUS REPRESENTATIVE, are not worried if sikhism is openly insulted. However, they feel insecured/jealous by a organisation that tries to make the people move on the path of their religion.
34 vinod insan // Jun 5, 2008 at 5:59 am
dear
agar hum kisi ka acha nahi kar sakte to kisi ka bura karne ka adhikar bhi hume nahi milta.so keep good works in life otherwise apka govind,kisi ka ram,alah,waheguru,god agar hai to wo bure ko bura hi dega
jaisi jiski bhawna vaisa hi fal paye.
means agar dera followers kisi sadak par gire hue ko uthakar kisi ka bhala karte hain to ye acha karya karne ki prerna dene wala hi sabse acha hai ten keep thinking in ur life that what we are doing
good ????????????????
or
bad?????????????????
35 Sach // Oct 26, 2008 at 12:26 am
allah aval noor upaya kudrat ke sab bande..
ek noor te sab jag upjaya..
kon bhale kon mande..
feels..strange..wen.. on earth two good people.. fight each other rather then.. fighting evils..
36 jatinder // Nov 18, 2008 at 3:09 pm
dhan dhan satguru tera hi aasara
37 fgmokfmokg // Feb 22, 2009 at 9:03 am
sare khedo
38 JASSI // Mar 17, 2009 at 11:57 pm
BHGWAN NE TUMHE SHAITAN BANA KA BHEJA HE KYA SIRSE WALO JO YEH TUMHARE KO INSAN BANA RAHA HAI , MERE KO LAGTA HAI YEH TUMHARE KO INSAN NAHI CHUTIYA BANA RAHA HAI ,GURMEET KISI KA NAHI MEET YEH TUMAHRE KO THAG RAHA HAI
39 JASSI // Mar 23, 2009 at 4:33 am
kaha mar gaye yeh dera wale tum salo pehle shaitan the kya
40 vikas // Apr 19, 2009 at 12:00 am
DERA SACHA SAUDA NE AJ TAK LAKHA KARORA LOKA NU NASHIYA BOORAIA TU DOOR KITA HAI. KAI LOKA DI MADAD KITI. KI TUHADE DHARAM WICH HAI KOI ESI GAL JO DERE SACHA SAUDA NE LOKA NU BOORE KAMA TU HATAYA HOVE JEKAR HAI TAHI TUSI KISE BAARE GALAT BOL SAKDE HO, MERA TA AHI HI KEHNA HAI, KI APAS VICH PYAR BANIYA RAHNA CHAHIDA HAI. KIO APA IK DOOJE NU GALAT BOL KE KISE DA MAN DOOKHAIE. JAI HIND
41 gill // Apr 24, 2009 at 11:34 am
fuck u sirse wale gandhe launde nang sadh fuddi da
42 Maksool Mohammad // Apr 30, 2009 at 3:14 am
Dhan-Dhan Satguru Tera Hi Aasra
Hum to bas itna kehna chahege ki is dar par hamne Allah Pak ko dekha hai………Sant ji mai Allah dikhte hai………unke noori chehre mei or pak kanth mei Allah ki awaaz aati hai……….
Paak nare mei Baange ilahi ka ehsaas hota hai……..
Dhan-Dhan Satguru Tera Hi Aasra
43 HARISH INSAAN // Jun 29, 2009 at 9:04 pm
AFTER BEAING A PART OF DERA SACHA SAUDA I REALLY REALISE I HAVE NOT ONLY TWO BROTHRS BUT THOUSANDS AND MILLIANS; WHAT IS THE PAIN OF OTHERS,, I GOT A DIFFRENT POINT OF VIEW OF WHOLE WORD, NOW IN REAL I REALISE THAT IHAVE A HEART WHICH CAN FEEL SORROWS AND HAPPINESS. DHAN DHAN SATGURU TERA HI AASRA. FRM AUSTRALIA, MELBOURNE 0411397570
44 HARISH INSAAN // Jun 29, 2009 at 9:19 pm
KAR BHALA HO BHALA ANT BHALA DA BHALA. ALWAYS THINK ABOUT BETERMENT OF SOCIETY , ONCE UPON A LIFE VISIT AT SIRSA THEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HUMANITY HOE PEOPLE DONATE BLOOD ; CHILDRENS,BODY ORGANS , EYES AND EVEN BODIES. EVEN MY PARENDS ARE COMMITED TO DONATE THEIR EYES AND WHOLE BODY FOR MEDICAL INSTITUTION. I AM HEAR IN AUSTRALIA FROM 2 MONTHS ONLY BUT IHAVE STARTED DONATING BLOOD AND REGISTER MYSELF AS FREQUAND DONOUR. WE ARE HUMAN AND HUMANITY IS MY RELEGION
45 JAGMOHAN SINGH // Jul 13, 2009 at 9:32 pm
jad vi koi shetan ja bura aadmi janm lendha hain ta us da nash karn vala vi janm lendha hain.sarse vale kutte sadh nu sabk sikhon lai bhadur yodhiya di koi ghat nahi .SIKHA NE TA INDRA GANDHI NI CHADI SARSE VALA KEHDA BAGH DI MULHI AA JE US NE MA DA DUDH PETHA TA DARE CHE KYO LUKHIYA BETHA
46 khalistani // Aug 24, 2009 at 9:08 pm
BAI GAL EDA HAI KI ……SANU TA PATA HI NAHI C KI ASI INSAAN HAA EH TA BHALA HOVE ES BABE DA JO ESNE DASTA KI ASI INSAAN HI HAA TE NA LE KOI BHUL NA JAVE ES KARKE NAAM MAGAR INSAAN LA DITA HAHAHA…..LOLZ….
47 PBains // Nov 6, 2009 at 8:34 pm
This is allabout money I know what this sad was before becoming ramarahim singh a simple jat boy from gurusar modia village in hanumangh distt in rajasthan having a modrate 4 muraba land used to consume liquor and deer hunter for meat. Very cunning in getting into baba business because he very well knew that it is tax free direct crime free business.people (his blind followers) say he preach only for Vegetarianism and renunciation of alcohal (but never tried to enforce ban smoking among its followers) is there anyone who can tell me if any of my 10 gurus preached these evils.Guru nanak travelled bare foot all over Asian contintinent to preach universal brotherhood but this Boobna use 7 lexus LX 450’s to travel 10 Km he is so scared to use only one Lexus (coward).O my innocent brothers and sisters please understand his business please do not help him make money.
48 SIMRAN // Nov 26, 2009 at 11:56 am
I AM AGAINST VIOLENCE AND KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
49 SIMRAN // Nov 26, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I AM AGINST THIS PERSON .HE HAS SO MANY MULTIPLICITY OF NAMES IN HIS NAME.IS HE A SAINT OR A SINNER.HE TRAVELS IN LEXUS WITH Z+SECURITY.NO SAINT EVER MADE SO MUCH POMP AND SHOW FOR THEIR TRAVELLING.HE IS A SINNER .HE NEEDS TO BE TRIED ELSE GOD WILL DEFINITELY TRY HIM ONCE HE GOES BECAUSE MY DEAR FRIENDS WE SHOULD KNOE=W NOBODY LIVES PERMANETLY ONT HIS EARTH…………..SO SOONER OR LATER HE WILL BE TRIED .EVEN IF HE KEEPS ALL SECURITY OF THE WORLD.
50 abcd // Dec 5, 2009 at 6:44 am
Es babe di wari kado ayegi ?
51 Amit Insan // Dec 7, 2009 at 4:18 am
Dhan Dhan Satguru Tera Hi Asra
Every Comment is like a mirror I read randomly
Please again read and found who is the writer or the
comment.
God Bless You All…………..
52 xyz // Jan 3, 2010 at 11:38 am
gurudwara che vi ta control badal da hai
ki oh guruji de dikhaye adarshe che chalde ne
ine prop erty une golak de pase nal hi banayi a
oh is to vada gunagar hai sikh panth da
53 jmgmgm // Jan 16, 2010 at 6:07 pm
thodi maa di fudi mari saleyo. saleyo kutteyo gall karde ho guru granth di te pehli podi tuhanu yad ni ”nideya bhali kisi ki naahi, mann mukh mukhadh karan.” raaj karega insanestaan
54 Punjabi // Feb 20, 2010 at 1:43 pm
First of all i feel so shame the people who are still have belief in such a shit ass whole. One person can tell a lie but not all the other persons his driver, Beant singh, sadhvis etc..
There are so many evidences but the fools are still going to to that shit whole baba.
and moreover embedding the word INSAAN with your name dsnt make u INSAAN until u behave like them..
And we are also not in favour of any akali leader bcoz i know they r only politicians not in favour of akal takht… they will pay before die.
i hate this shit BABA f’king stupid person and the people who favours him can try their girls n females to send them to dera n become a sadhvi then they will definitely show them the truth of LUSTY baba
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