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Dera Sacha Suada: The reality

May 23rd, 2007 § 54

We, here at jhootha sauda : sacha sauda are keeping an eye on every news and incident to provide you with the best possible picture of the Punjab’s current situation. We thereby provide every perspective and available factual information anywhere within the media. Personal blogs will also be included, so that you are getting everything from one place you need not to search for it from any other online source. The article posted below provides very useful links which we hope will help you to gain a wider picture of the relevent incidents:

Contributed by members of Sikhism Community, Orkut.

PURPOSE

This webpage is meant as an eye opener to the actual reasons, cause and happenings behind the Dera Sacha Sauda issue. Almost all of us depend upon news channels to provide us with the latest updates on issues, but what is unfortunate is that most often one can see either incorrect or incomplete information, or a politically influenced or a biased view in these places. This web page is a small effort to bring to light the truth behind all of this.

THE TRUTH

Many people may have no idea about what the Dera Sacha Sauda is or what this entire issue is all about. Many national and regional channels in India have come up with their own interpretations of this Dera. Let us try clear the misconceptions first.

The Dera Sacha Sauda is in no way of or related to Sikhism. Sikhism does not support the Dera culture.(A Dera like this one here is like a cult following of people where typically a man declares himself as a holy person trying to gather followers.) So is the Dera Sacha Suada. In effect the Dera is actually a Jhootha Sauda.

1. This is not an issue of Akalis going for a revenge. Anyone in power would not ask for the trouble. This is a case of Sikh sentiments being hurt.

CNN IBN and other channels have repeatedly being saying that its a fight over faith between Dera and Akali Sikhs. This is totally false! It’s a fight between “All Sikhs” and the Dera.

2. The instigation has deliberately been done by the Dera Baba who has tried to imitate the tenth Master of the Sikhs.

3. Its not just dress code, he has tried to play and mimic with the teachings of the Guru Sahib- instituting his own style amrit like

- he has 7 persons for his sharabat first and Guru Gobind Singh ji has panj pyare (5 beloved ones)

- he asked his followers to use “Insaan” with their names and everyone knows it was Guru Gobind Singh ji who asked Sikhs to use Singh for males and Kaur for females with their names.

and unfortunately just the way it happened in 1978 that led to operation bluestar and then 84 riots.

4. Anyone Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian who has slightest knowledge of Sikhism can easily make out the intentions behind the ads.

5. The Dera followers were aware of the instigation and were prepared for the Sikh reactions. within hours of Sikh Protest 12000 Dera followers came armed and created havoc in Bhatinda. Most of them were armed with same size of lathis as reported by News Channel.

6. The congress is behind these instigations and trouble is factually proven by photographs and videos, as almost 6 congress MLAs were part of the mob which created havoc in Bhatinda.

7. Tolerance does not mean that you demean the prophets of any religion and then ask the people not to react. And mind it the reactions by Sikhs have been democratic and mostly peaceful.

8. There were 1.5 lakh Sikhs yesterday at Sabo ki Talvandi to protest against the Deras misendeavors. Has there been any violence or damage to public property? What more can be the tolerance?

9. It was Dera followers who open fired on the crowd coming back from Talwandi Sabo. Their Dera is on the main road and they open fire, killing 1 Sikh (Kamaljit Singh) and injuring several others. How come Dera followers got armed with guns and ammunition?

10. Dera followers distributing lathis (sticks) and collecting stones was shown in one of the news channel on Thursday evening.

11. There are hundreds of Deras running in Punjab and never ever the Sikhs harassed or protested against them. Yes unless these Deras have tried to deliberately play with Sikh sentiments.

12. We would request all to support Sikh sentiments and expose this Dera.

13. We would also request Sikh brothers to not to play in the hands of politicians. Let us maintain our composure and peacefully protest against the Dera Head’s misadventure.

LINKS

Below are a collection of links(videos/articles/news feeds/blogs) which will help us understand what the truth is behind this Dera and its self proclaimed head, Gurmeet Ram Rahim, what is it that is wrong done by him hurting the Sikh sentiments.

I

This blog has quite a comprehensive coverage of the incidents right from the beginning which have led to the entire event. One may read this, not to forget watch some videos of the happenings in Punjab/Haryana(Sirsa).

http://jaspreetsingh.blogspot.com/

II

This was the instigating advertisement given in the Hindustan Times by the Dera Sacha Sauda. Notice the person adopting the clothes/posture/style of Guru Gobind Singh Ji and making a worthless attempt to compare himself to the True Guru. And as mentioned earlier, he formulated rules for his followers similar to the tenets laid down by Guru Gobind Singh on the Baisakhi day in 1699, the day KHALSA was born.

http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/artMailDisp.aspx?article=13_05_2007_001_008&typ=1&pub=722

III

The Dera Sacha Sauda for long has been in more controversial news than in good news for the killings of a journalist and a former member of the Dera who tried to expose the evil going on inside the Dera.

These links talk about the killing of a journalist who was trying to expose the rape of a sadhvi or a female disciple of the Dera by the head of the Dera, Gurmeet Ram Rahim himself. A letter written by this sadhvi also talks about the sexual exploitation of many more females that keep happening inside the premises of the Dera.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1926/stories/20030103003404000.htm

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070410/haryana.htm#24

http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed02.html

IV

There are presently atleast two different cases being investigated by the CBI for the rape and killings which happened inside the Dera. The CBI has also put forward a cash award asking people for evidence to prove the same.

http://cbi.nic.in/PressReleases/PRelease2005/sadhvi.htm

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050906/haryana.htm#1

V

The luxury Dera baba; Gurmeet Ram Rahim

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/dera-sacha-saudas-colourful-baba/40803-3.html

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/meet-dera-chief-a-luxury-baba/40768-3.html

VIDEOS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcITqSgnH8U

http://www.youtube.com/v/pRGt6G66p3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zraqA8dg1s4

Negative tactics by Dera to divide the Sikhs

The NDTV already played a documentary around 9.30 PM stating that Sikhs don’t allow dalits in mainstream Gurdwaras but in Dera all are treated as equal without any discrimination (so, dalits have to build seperate Gurdwaras). This is utter rubbish!!! A Gurdwara is open to entire humanity, people from all faiths/castes/creed without any discrimination whatsoever. This is just a political stunt created by the Dera to brainwash people and attract confused and under-priviledged ones.

Now Dera is throwing such baseless and foolish tantrums through its Spokesperson. This was broadcasted live by AAJ TAK.

His False Claim :

a) Sikhs burnt religious Granths, including Sri Guru Granth Sahib (most revered holy granth of Sikhs) in their Dera at Bhatinda.

This is absolutely false! How can media broadcast this fraud news? Was there any such news from legal authorities? How can media let provocative statements Telecasted live?

The Sikh Community totally condemns this claims. Sikhs respect all the religions and expect the same from all.

Sikhs never burn any religious scripture (this is a conspiracy to trap them, we should be aware of this and not fall for such foul means played by the Dera people).

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§ 54 Responses to “Dera Sacha Suada: The reality”

  • Amit Insan says:

    Dhan Dhan Satguru Tera Hi Asra

    Every Comment is like a mirror I read randomly

    Please again read and found who is the writer or the

    comment.

    God Bless You All…………..

  • xyz says:

    gurudwara che vi ta control badal da hai

    ki oh guruji de dikhaye adarshe che chalde ne

    ine prop erty une golak de pase nal hi banayi a

    oh is to vada gunagar hai sikh panth da

  • Punjabi says:

    First of all i feel so shame the people who are still have belief in such a shit ass whole. One person can tell a lie but not all the other persons his driver, Beant singh, sadhvis etc..
    There are so many evidences but the fools are still going to to that shit whole baba.

    and moreover embedding the word INSAAN with your name dsnt make u INSAAN until u behave like them..

    And we are also not in favour of any akali leader bcoz i know they r only politicians not in favour of akal takht… they will pay before die.

    i hate this shit BABA f’king stupid person and the people who favours him can try their girls n females to send them to dera n become a sadhvi then they will definitely show them the truth of LUSTY baba

  • jatt says:

    salio apne pio bare bakwas likhi jande o tusi kade othe ja k dekhia,tuhade gurdwaria vich jan wala paisa ruk gia c ta raula paude o .bar bar sikha dia bhavnava di gal karde o premia dia koi bhavnava nahi.vade bande o sikh dharam vale oh v ta hindu bande ne hi shuru kita c.odo ta ohda sath v nahi kise ne dita jehda kala janglan vich firda c.par asi apne guru nal a jehra sade guru bare bakwas karu sala bana la ge.asi hun tak sirf apne guru de kehn te ruke hoye a

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